So here is a valid question someone made on one of the anti-church of God blog about their explanation as to what the Seal of God is. Take at look at the response which is just a circular argument with no concrete answer.
Anonymous said…
If the seal is the holy spirit? Then what is the seal the angel from the east brings in revelation 7. As far as I know revelation 7 is about the last days, but the holy spirit was given on the day of Pentecost. So I’m a little confused. Can you explain. Because if I understand your interpretation correctly and the seal of God is the holy spirit, we should not be able to receive it until the last days and until we meet that angel from the east. Please explain.
ANTI COG said…
…Yes, the Holy Spirit came on the Day of Pentecost (Acts chapter 2), but that wasn’t a one-time occurence. Since then, the Holy Spirit can be seen at work throughout the book of Acts, and throughout the history of the church, even up to the present day.
Since the Bible says that the Holy Spirit puts His seal of ownership on us when we believe, and the Spirit has been working since the second chapter of Acts, then it seems to me that people have been receiving this seal at least since the early church….
Anonymous said…
… I just asked a question to your biblical interpretation it kind of doesnt make sense to me. If the Seal of God has been here since the day of pentecost, then why is there need for the angel from the east to bring it in the last days?
Why would you bring something that is already here?
ANTI COG said…
…In the meantime, if my explanation doesn’t make sense to you, do you have any ideas of what this seal may be? What do you think?
If you haven’t any ideas at all, you might want to do a keyword search of the Bible for “seal” and see what comes up.
Anonymous said…
mmmm… no i rather not make my own interpretations. I dont want to be cursed by God if my interpretation is not correct.if you are not sure just be careful.
I dont want to add or take away from the word of God.
ANTI COG said…
…But I agree that we must be careful. It is important to safeguard yourself from misunderstandings by having a good knowledge of basic and well-established Biblical truths so that you do not inadvertently contradict them.
But I am not meaning to ask you to make an interpretation of what the seal may be. I just meant to ask if you would look at what the Bible directly says. It takes no “interpreting” to do that. If you search the NIV for “seal” on BibleGateway.com you get 63 hits. …
Now for your question, “If the Seal of God has been here since the day of pentecost, then why is there need for the angel from the east to bring it in the last days? Why would you bring something that is already here?”
Much of the book of Revelation is symbolic. God had to show John these things “that must soon take place” in a way that John could understand. (Rev. 1:1)
This is the first time John has seen the angel with the seal. It could be that the angel has been roaming the earth this whole time with the seal, and God is showing to John what is happening now that the angel is completing the sealing.
…If that were the case, we could not know what the seal is, since it could be nothing that was done in the Bible or church history. And in that case, we shouldn’t guess at what it might be because, as you say, we don’t want to add or take away from the word of God.
Anonymous said…
It doesn’t necessarily mean something new, it could be something that was here once, it was taken away and then the Angel is bringing it back. …your answer is not confident at all, i mean from your responses i can see that you are not sure that what you are saying is really true what if you are wrong and they are right. What about then? You confidently say that they are wrong, but you are not even sure that you are right.
1 Corinthians 4:5 – Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men’s hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.
ANTI COG said…
You said, “it could be something that was here once, it was taken away and then the Angel is bringing it back.”
Alright, I could accept that . But if that was it, then it still couldn’t be Passover, or the Sabbath, or the Holy Spirit’s seal of the believer. All of those have been around, somewhere or another, since the early church.
…You said, “You confidently say that they are wrong, but you are not even sure that you are right.”
There are many things in the Bible that are quite clear, and so it is also clear when someone is wrong about those things (such as the way to salvation or who Jesus is).
Other things are not so clear (such as who the rider of the white horse is in Rev. 6:2). It could be one thing or another. It would be foolish of me to say that it is absolutely, for certain one thing, when there is also evidence for another interpretation.
As Paul says in 1 Corinthians 13:12, “Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.”
For the WMSCOG to take such an absolute stand on those things that do have alternate possibilities, to the exclusion of any other point of view that has merit–yes, I do think that is wrong of them.
They do that because they think their gods (Ahnsahnghong and “Mother”) must be right about everything they say, so there is no room for any other possibility. But if Ahnsahnghong and “Mother” are NOT gods, then their teachings are just like everyone else’s–human interpretations.
Perhaps you’d like to look at whether Ahnsahnghong was really God in the flesh?
In their statements they say that there is many possibilities as to what the seal of God might be (Passover could be one of them). The only reason i wanted to point out this conversation is to show the readers how the ANTI Church of God people biggest problem is not the teachings of the World Mission Society Church of God, but the fact that we believe Christ Ahnsahnghong is God.
They did not answer the question at all, but concluded the argument with the statement: “…Perhaps you’d like to look whether Ahnsahnghong was really God in the flesh?”
If you are going to debate the teachings of the World Mission Society Church of God and Christ Ahnsahnghong, at least bring some concrete evidence on the table. At least provide some confident alternative, not a bunch of “what if?”.
As far as the Answer to the question, it makes more sense that the Passover is the Seal of God being restored from the East.
